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Mandy
Mandy

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Pls help . Tks

Date Posted: 4 years ago
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Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
Before:

Box A: 400 pieces 50c, 180 pieces $1

Box B: 160 pieces 50c, 1100 pieces $1

Some 50c coins and some $1 coins are transferred from Box A to Box B

After:

Box A: 50% are 50c coins
Box B: 30% are 50c coins

Now, there are a total of 1840 coins, comprising a total of 560 pieces of 50c coins and 1280 pieces of $1 coins.

Because Box A is to have 50% of 50c coins at the end, there must be an equal number of 50c coins and $1 coins in Box A at the end.

This means that there are 220 more pieces of 50c coins than $1 coins being transferred from Box A to Box B, because currently there are 220 more pieces of 50c coins than $1 coins. So for example, if 100 pieces of $1 are being transferred, then 320 pieces of 50c coins are being transferred.

At this part do you understand the idea behind the transfer?

Now, let’s consider Box B.

Currently there are 940 more pieces of $1 coins than 50c coins in Box B, if you have done the counting. Because Box B is about to receive 220 more pieces of 50c coins than $1 coins, at the end of the transferring, Box B will only have 720 more pieces of $1 coins than 50c coins.

At the end, Box B has 720 more pieces of $1 coins than 50c coins, and the number of 50c coins in Box B is 30% (3/10) of the total number of coins in Box B.

There are “3 units” of 50c coins in Box B at the end and “7 units” of $1 coins in Box B at the end, so that the total number of coins in Box B at the end is “10 units”. The difference of 4 units in coins between the two corresponds to the 720 extra coins.

So in other words,

4 units —> 720 coins
1 unit —> 720/4 = 180 coins (“fraction” and “divide” mean the same thing actually but I cannot find a division symbol here)
3 units —> 180 x 3 = 540 coins

So there must be 540 pieces of 50c coins in the end.

This totals $270 in 50c coins in Box B in the end, since every two pieces of 50c coins equal to $1 in value.

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Let’s check the above.

7 units —> 180 x 7 = 1260 coins

So there are 540 pieces of 50c coins and 1260 pieces of $1 coins at the end.

Because Box B started out with 160 pieces of 50c coins and 1100 pieces of $1 coins at first, there must have been 380 pieces of 50c coins and 160 pieces of $1 coins being collected by Box B in the transfer, which comes from Box A.

Box A has 20 pieces of 50c coins and 20 pieces of $1 coins in the end, which explains why the percentage of 50c coins in Box A at the end is 50%.

So there must really be 540 pieces of 50c coins in Box B at the end, amounting to $270.

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I cannot guarantee and vouch for the correctness of my answers, but I have tried to keep my ideas logical for this question.

If you still do not understand my workings, let me know accordingly.
Rachael
Rachael
4 years ago
Hi Mandy. You get the total number of coins by adding the number of 50c and $1 in both boxes.

As for the 3 units calculation, I believe you found an error in my answer. It is indeed 92 × 3 to get 276 50c coins. Therefore the correct answer should be $138.

276 × 50c = $138
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
In summary,

Before

Box A: 400 pieces 50c, 180 pieces $1
Box B: 160 pieces 50c, 1100 pieces $1

Transfer made is 380 pieces 50c, 160 pieces $1

After

Box A: 20 pieces 50c, 20 pieces $1 (so percentage of 50c is 50%, i.e. 1/2 of the coins in Box A are 50c coins at the end)
Box B: 540 pieces 50c, 1260 pieces $1 (so percentage of 50c is 30%, i.e. 3/10 of the coins in Box B are 50c coins at the end)

For a total value of $270 worth of 50c coins in Box B.
Mandy
Mandy
4 years ago
Eric, why 220? 400 - 160 = 240? ? Tks
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
We are not subtracting the number of coins between Box A and Box B in the question, since there is no useful meaning for this subtraction other than saying “there are 240 more pieces of 50c coins in Box A than in Box B”, which is the basis of 400 - 160 = 240.

Instead, we are counting the number in terms of transfers.

At first, there are 400 pieces of 50c coins and 180 pieces of $1 coins in Box A. I anticipate that there must be an equal number of pieces of 50c coins and $1 coins at the end in Box A, because half of the coins in Box A at the end must be 1/2.

Howsoever you try to do the transfer to meet these requirements, you would have transferred 220 more pieces of 50c coins than $1 coins to Box B.

For example, if you wish to leave behind 100 pieces of 50c coins and 100 pieces of $1 coins at the end, you will need to transfer 300 pieces of 50c coins and 80 pieces of $1 coins, with a net difference of 220 coins.

Similarly, if you wish to leave behind 50 pieces of 50c coins and 50 pieces of $1 coins at the end, you will need to transfer 350 pieces of 50c coins and 130 pieces of $1 coins, also with a net difference of 220 coins.

However, only one such combination leaves Box B with 30% of 50c coins at the end.

Box B starts out with 940 more $1 coins than 50c coins. As a result of the transfer, this gap “narrows” to 720 more $1 coins than 50c coins.

It’s like you are running a race and you are 940 m in front of your classmate. Suddenly your classmate runs faster and ends up closing up the gap by 220 m because you ran more slowly. You are still ahead 720 m at the end.

Note that this “220 more 50c coins than $1 coins being transferred” has no relationship with “240 more 50c coins in Box A than Box B at first”.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
So at the end, there must have been 720 more pieces of 50c coins than $1 coins in Box B at the end. Also note the fact that 3/10 of the coins in Box B at the end are 50c coins, so the ratio of 50c coins to $1 coins in Box B at the end is 3:7.

This extra 4 units correspond to this extra 720 pieces of coins.

Working out everything, 3 units yield 540 pieces of coins.

So there are 540 pieces of 50c coins at the end.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
Instead, based on Rachael’s answer, it would go like this.

At the end, there are 276 pieces of 50c coins in the end.

Since the ratio of 50c coins to $1 coins at the end is 3:7, there must have been (276 / 3 x 7) = 644 pieces of $1 coins at the end.

It does not make logical sense for 1100 pieces of $1 coins in Box B to drop to 644 pieces of $1 coins in Box B at the end, since the Box B is supposed to gain pieces of $1 coins from Box A.

So there could not have been 276 pieces of 50c coins in Box B at the end.
Mandy
Mandy
4 years ago
I understand yr theory, I need to analyse other step further. Tks
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
I have to admit that this question is really difficult to understand because it did take me some time to think through my workings (I would have used algebra otherwise, but this is for secondary level) and the approach that I have taken may probably be too advanced for you.

Take your time to analyse the question, understand the ideas and plan a working to solve the question. You can notify me if you think my workings have errors and I will check once again my answers.

Let me know through this question’s chat box if you have further queries.
Mandy
Mandy
4 years ago
Eric, yr answer is correct.. tks

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Rachael
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Hope this helps!
Mandy
Mandy
4 years ago
May i know how u get 1840? Next 3 units should be 92 x 3 = 276...when u mention 20 units = 1840 divide by 20 units in order to find 1 unit.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
I obtained a different answer of $270 at the end as explained in the question’s comments section.

In summary, I got these:

Before

Box A: 400 pieces 50c, 180 pieces $1
Box B: 160 pieces 50c, 1100 pieces $1

Transfer made is 380 pieces 50c, 160 pieces $1

After

Box A: 20 pieces 50c, 20 pieces $1 (so percentage of 50c is 50%)
Box B: 540 pieces 50c, 1260 pieces $1 (so percentage of 50c is 30%)

For a total value of $270 worth of 50c coins in Box B.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
This is just my line of thought and may not represent a correct solution or working.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
Rachael, Box B started out with

160 pieces of 50c coins

at first, so there could not have been

92 pieces of 50c coins

in Box B at the end, considering that coins are being transferred from Box A to Box B but no coins are being transferred from Box B to Box A.

Edit: Had not seen your updated comments of 276 coins in time.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
One flaw I spotted in Rachael’s working is that the “1/2” and “3/10” cannot be actually added together, since we are not actually dealing with the same number of coins in both boxes.

The fractions 1/2 and 3/10 in “1/2 of 100 coins and 3/10 of 100 coins” can be added

but

the fractions 1/2 and 3/10 in “1/2 of 100 coins and 3/10 of 500 coins” cannot be added.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
I decided to give Rachael an upvote for the effort that she has put in, although there is a slight inaccuracy in the concept of the working.
Learningtutor
Learningtutor
4 years ago
That's cool. Mandy remember to thank your tutors Rachael and Eric too! Happy learning. :)
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Phylicia Tong
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Hope this helps.
J
J
4 years ago
Mandy, This is the unit-part method which is used in the PSLE syllabus. Master it well and it will come in very useful
Learningtutor
Learningtutor
4 years ago
Best answer!
Phylicia Tong
Phylicia Tong
4 years ago
Thank you :)
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Learningtutor
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Hi Mandy, from your current syllabus, you are required to work with basic algebra. x' is the algebra representing the number of coins transferred and × refers to multiplying in the solution. Thanks and happy learning. :)
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
That’s quite a genius way of distinguishing a multiplication symbol from the variable x. I would not have thought of that.
J
J
4 years ago
For primary school it is fine. If it's O level and above, it's better to write the x with a subscript 1 instead of superscript. if it's intended to be 'x prime' instead then the ' prime' will be more curved.

Otherwise, write the x in the usual curvy way
Learningtutor
Learningtutor
4 years ago
Thx J noted.
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Nigel Lim
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Wah sia this question so hard took me a good 30 minutes. Btw my answer might be wrong as im also p6 but hope it will help.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
Careful here... the fractions cannot be added just like that since the number of coins in both boxes is not the same
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
I have added a lengthy explanation in the comments post. You can also look at the discussions by Learningtutor and Phylicia.