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Erica
Erica

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We are supposed to factorise. For this question, the answer given is (-4p+1)(3p+1). However, I got (4p-1)(-3p-1). May I ask whether I am still correct because both answers expand to the same number? Thank you so much!!

Date Posted: 3 years ago
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Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
3 years ago
Both formats are the same. You can extract one negative sign each from your answers to get the given solution. And the two negative signs cancel out anyway.

Or we introduce two negatives.

(-4p + 1) (3p + 1)
= [- (-4p + 1)] [- (3p + 1)]
= (4p - 1) (-3p - 1)
Erica
Erica
3 years ago
Thank you @Eric Nicholas K
Arnold K H Tan
Arnold K H Tan
3 years ago
Note that its mathematically the same, but since the question was to factorise, and you can factorise out, -1, you would lose 1 mark in exams for your current answer.
Erica
Erica
3 years ago
Oh I see. Thank you @Arbold K H Tan!!
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
3 years ago
Both formats are actually fine (I would not deduct marks for it) since the main goal of the term “factorise” is to reduce the quadratic expression into a product of two linear expressions. But somehow, too many negative signs do not appeal to my eye at all.

This is why I prefer (-4p + 1) (3p + 1) over (4p - 1) (-3p - 1). Because there are too many negative signs in the expression (4p - 1) (-3p - 1).
Erica
Erica
3 years ago
Oh ok!! Thank you so much @Eric Nicholas K
J
J
3 years ago
Arnold is correct.

Ir would actually actually be better if you have left it as (1 - 4p)(3p + 1). The rule of thumb is to not leave negative signs if front if possible
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
3 years ago
By far the best presentation of the possible formats is

(1 - 4p) (1 + 3p)
J
J
3 years ago
Not really. It depends on what you are given for the expanded form.

(1 - 4p)(1 + 3p) is only more intuitive here because the act of expansion is in flow with the given expression.

(Left term x left term
Left term x right term
Right term x left term
Right term x right term)

(1 - 4p)(1 + 3p)

= 1 + 3p - 4p - 4p(3p)

= 1 - p - 12p²
J
J
3 years ago
if the expression was given as -12p² - p + 1 instead, then (-4p + 1)(3p + 1) would be more intuitive. And that is probably why the answer scheme put it as such since they expect the student to rearrange in order of x² being the first, then in descending powers)

Erica, what I would recommend is to take out the negative sign from the coefficient in x² first. Makes things easier to visualise.

1 - p - 12p²

= -(12p² + p - 1)

= -(4p - 1)(3p + 1)

= (1 - 4p)(3p + 1)

Once you get the hang of it, these are easy to do mentally and we won't even have to use any cross or box method anymore.
Erica
Erica
3 years ago
Ok! Thank you so much @J for the advice

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Both are same.

(4p-1)(-3p-1)
= (-3p-1)(4p-1)
= - (3p+1)(4p-1)
= - (4p-1)(3p+1)
= (1-4p)(3p+1)
= (-4p+1)(3p+1)
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