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can someone explain why this question need to introduce log but some other questions like e^3x-1=8 dont need

Date Posted: 3 years ago
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Sophie Ng
Sophie Ng
3 years ago
for the example with e instead, you will have to introduce ln instead, since ln(e)=1. from there, the problem solving for the variable x will be much easier.

you need to introduce log for the question in the picture as you need to bring the unknown variable y down in order the solve it, and you only can do so by adding log.

hope this helps (:
LockB
LockB
3 years ago
thx!! :)
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
3 years ago
Sophie is slightly inaccurate in the first paragraph. There is nothing wrong with applying lg to e, although what Sophie is trying to explain is that e is better paired with ln and 10 is better paired with lg as part of simplifications.

e^(2x + 3) = 6

We can apply ln directly.

ln e^(2x + 3) = ln 6
(2x + 3) ln e = ln 6
(2x + 3) = ln 6 / ln e
2x = (ln 6 / ln 3) - 3
x = 0.5 [(ln 6 / ln 3) - 3]

But ln e = 1, so one of the above steps can be simplified without having to go the long way.

2x + 3 = ln 6
2x = (ln 6) - 3
x = 0.5 [(ln 6) - 3]

Or, we can apply lg directly.

lg e^(2x + 3) = lg 6
(2x + 3) lg e = lg 6

But the value lg e is not easy to predict.

2x + 3 = (lg 6 / lg e)
2x = (lg 6 / lg e) - 3
x = 0.5 [(lg 6 / lg 3) - 3]

LockB, applying lg and ln works for every such exponential equation, regardless of whether the base is 10, e or some other positive number not equalling 1.

If calculators are made to calculate logs to base 2 as well, then changing to base 2 would even perhaps be possible.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
3 years ago
10^(1 - y) = 14

lg is a good idea here.

lg 10^(1 - y) = lg 14
(1 - y) lg 10 = lg 14

But we know that lg 10 = 1, so...

1 - y = lg 14
y = 1 - lg 14

ln is a good idea as well.

ln 10^(1 - y) = ln 14
(1 - y) ln 10 = ln 14

Sad that ln 10 has no easy value, just like lg e.

(1 - y) = (ln 14 / ln 10)
y = 1 - (ln 14 / ln 10)

For questions with bases other than 10 and e, there is practically little difference in the workings other than the logarithm applied.
J
J
3 years ago
You will be able to calculate the logs with other bases with a Graphing Calculator (GC) or computer software. The GC is used in the syllabi of the Singapore A level Mathematics subjects.

But at O level, you'll need to change base since the approved scientific calculators do not have that function.

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Eric Nicholas K
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An alternative approach.

Here, both lg and ln work perfectly fine! Ln can also be used here.

For e^(3x - 1) = 8, there is nothing wrong with using lg to solve it, while for 10^(3x - 1) = 8, there is nothing wrong with using ln to solve it (if calculators can calculate logs to other bases also, it would also be allowed).

But e is commonly paired with ln because ln e = 1 as part of the workings and this simplifies our calculations a little.

Which is why ln is commonly applied to e and lg is commonly applied to 10.
LockB
LockB
3 years ago
thx :)