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Xiang Ning
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Is it possible to have 2 solutions of w and z respectively or there must only be 1 solution for w and z each?

Date Posted: 4 years ago
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Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Thank you. After I tried again, I got the same answers as yours too.
J
J
4 years ago
Let z = a + bi. Then z* = a - bi

z* = w/(1 + i)
w = z*(1 + i)


Given : z² + zw - 2 = 0

Sub w = z*(1 + i),

z² + z(z*(1 + i)) - 2 = 0


Recall that z(z*) = a² + b². Sub z = a + bi,

(a + bi)² + (a²+b²)(1 + i) - 2 = 0

a² + 2abi - b² + a² + b² + (a²+b²)i - 2 = 0

2a² + (2ab + a² + b²)i = 2 + 0i
2a² + (a + b)²i = 2 + 0i

Compare coefficients of the real part,

2a² = 2
a² = 1
a = 1 or a = - 1

Compare coefficients of the imaginary part,

(a + b)² = 0
a + b = 0
b = - a

So b = - 1 or b = 1

Therefore,

z = 1 - i or z = -1 + i

Since w = z*(1 + i)

w = (1 + i)(1 + i) or w = (-1 - i)(1 + i)

w = 1² + 2i - 1 or w = -(1+i)(1+i)

w = 2i or w = -2i


Therefore ,

z = 1 - i, w = 2i or z = -1 + i, w = - 2i


Note that since the possible values of of z are negatives of each other, then it follows that the possible values of w are also negatives of each other since the z* would be negatives of each other as well.
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Thank you. Is it ok if I make w the subject for the 1st equation, which is w=((2-z)^)2/z?
J
J
4 years ago
You mean to solve w first?
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
No. Instead of making w the subject of the formula for the 2nd equation, can I do it for the 1st equation?
J
J
4 years ago
Yes, you can. Why not?

Given : z² + zw - 2 = 0

zw = 2 - z²
w = (2 - z²)/z


Sub this into z* = w/(1 + i) ,

z* = (2-z²)/(z(1 + i))

zz*(1 + i) = 2 - z²

It's the same no matter which one you use to make w the subject first. If done correctly with no error, you'll get to the same result (compare this with my previous working to see that it's the same.

For normal simultaneous equations it's like that too, you can choose either.to start with. This question is just simultaneous equations with a imaginary twist
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Oh I see. Which method would be less tedious to do?
J
J
4 years ago
Not much difference actually. I usually do what comes to mind first.

If I really have to pick one, the first one would be it as I used fewer steps, and I don't have to divide then multiply back again to get rid of the denominator, unlike the second one.

Depends on the question also. Exercise your discretion and choose which one is easiest for you. Sometimes what others easy might be tedious and long to you, vice versa
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
Typically for me, I avoid fractions as far as possible. For some reason linear expressions (as in, no fractions whatsoever) are more appealing to my eye.
Eric Nicholas K
Eric Nicholas K
4 years ago
In this case, solving for w first would probably be more tedious. I also feel that the question will be tedious without the substitution z = a + bi.
J
J
4 years ago
I doubt it can be done without the substitution. The question gave the conjugate. How else to express the conjugate other than letting z = a + bi first? The substitution is required to put them all in the same kind of terms
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Thanks for all your explanations!

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Since I am rusty, my answers are probably incorrect.
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Thank you. After I try again, I got the same answers as yours.