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Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning

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I need help with part (v)

Date Posted: 4 years ago
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J
J
4 years ago
Equation of p2 :

r•(-1 0 1) = -1

Equation of l2:

l2: r = (1 7 4) + λ(1 2 1) , λ ∈ R

Any point on l2 can be represented by the position vector (1 7 4) + λ(1 2 1) = (1+λ 7+2λ 4+λ)

Since l2 is parallel to p2, if l2 intersects p2,
It will lie completely in p2. Thus any point on l2 will have a position vector that satisfies the equation of p2.


But,

(1+λ 7+2λ 4+λ)•(-1 0 1)
= -1 - λ + 4 + λ
= 3 ≠ -1

So no points on l2 can satisfy the equation of p2. This means l2 doesn't lie in p2 and thus they do not intersect.


For l1 and l2, their direction vectors are not parallel. So they are not parallel to each other.

l2 and p2 are parallel to each other but do not intersect. As p2 contains l1, it follows that l2 and l1 do not intersect as l2 doesn't even intersect p2.


Since l1 and l2 do no intersect and are not parallel, they are a pair of skew lines.
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
How do you find the equation of p2?
J
J
4 years ago
you haven't done part iv) ?
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
I have done it but when I use your method, I think my answer for p2 is wrong.
J
J
4 years ago
what's the answer you obtained?
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Ok. I think I know how to get your answer for p2 already. Thanks
J
J
4 years ago
What you've done is a dot product of positon vector of a point on l1, (3 1 2) and the direction vector, (1 2 1) of l2.

(3 1 2)•(1 2 1) = 7

Which led to your equation r•(1 2 1) = 7


You used the direction vector of l2 for your normal vector of p2.

However,question says that l2 is parallel to p2. So is its direction vector (1 2 1).You can't use a vector that is parallel to p2 as your normal vector since you need one that is perpendicular.


What I've described in the method yesterday was to cross two vectors parallel to the plane (but not parallel to each other)to obtain a vector that is perpendicular to the plane.


As l1 lies in p2, it is parallel to p2. So is its direction vector (1 3 1).

l2 and its direction vector (1 2 1) are also parallel to p2.

You now have the two vectors required, (1 3 1) and (1 2 1). They are parallel to p2 but not to each other.


Crossing them , you get

(1 2 1) x (1 3 1) = (-1 0 1)


Now dot this with (3 1 2),

(3 1 2)•(-1 0 1) = -1


So equation of p2 is r•(-1 0 1) = -1
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
I know my mistake now. Thanks for the informative explanation
J
J
4 years ago
Welcome. Hope it helped
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Yes. It has helped me as I am able to understand clearer
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
By the way, is there any particular order to cross vectors as the answers that came out will be the negative of the other. So how do I know which one will be the correct order to cross?
J
J
4 years ago
if the question is only looking for a normal vector to the plane then it doesn't matter. Either way you cross will give you a normal vector. They are just in opposite directions. Both will be correct just as Learningtutor mentioned in his comments yesterday in the other question.


For example,

Let say for iv), you cross the other way round :

(1 3 1) x (1 2 1) = (1 0 -1)


Now dot this with (3 1 2),

(3 1 2)•(1 0 -1) = 1


So equation of p2 is r•(1 0 -1) = 1


Notice that :

r•(1 0 - 1) = 1
Then r• (-(-1 0 1)) = 1

-r•(-1 0 1) = 1

r•(-1 0 1) = -1


You can easily convert one into the other by changing the sign. It's like saying 2x = 3 is the same as -2x = -3
Xiang Ning
Xiang Ning
4 years ago
Okay. I understand now