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Zwen
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Help. Seriously, whoever set this paper is way too cunning. Ughhhh, anyway, please help for this qn. The qn about the money, not the one above. Thanks.

Date Posted: 3 years ago
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J
J
3 years ago
62 years old means let t = 62
You want $1 000 000 at the end so y(t) = 1 000 000
PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
must use y(t) = Ce^kt? continuously means daily?
J
J
3 years ago
We can let the one-time deposit be x.

After the first compounding period, the total amount = 1.05x (because you're adding 5% of the principal amount and 5% = 0.05.


If compounded yearly,

At the end of 62 years, the amount of money will be = (1.05)⁶²x

(Basically, compounding means the total amount after any compounding period is always 1.05 times of the previous period))


Since they want to reach a total of $1 000 000,

Then (1.05)⁶²x = 1 000 000

x = 1 000 000 / (1.05)⁶²

x ≈ 48 558.2982
x = 48 558.30 (nearest cent)
PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
interesting ..... I am very keen to know what is the answer given by the school...
J
J
3 years ago
However, if they want continuous compounding, then we are looking at an infinite number of compounding periods.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/continuouscompounding.asp

The formula will be :

Total = P × (1 + i/n)ⁿᵗ

Whereby

P is the one time deposit (principal sum)
i is the interest rate
n is the number of compounding periods in 1 year
t is the number of years


Since we want an infinite number of periods, n tends to infinity (n → ∞)

When this occurs, the limit of (1 + i/n)ⁿᵗ is :

eⁱᵗ


This is actually the basis of the how e is derived (you can read up on it online)
PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
yes. I know the theory. we learnt this under radioactively decay whereby dN/dt = -kN.. then solve this DE to get N = No e^kt . where the two k never change value.... Applying here dN/dt is the interest obtained per dt period of time. and k is the growth rate per dt of time too. dt is infinitely small.... So if we used it here, dt is in second? or smaller? To me, using this equation has assumed continuity. Using the commercial equation, we are considering the interest is credited yearly. Very different... That's y my answer is different.
J
J
3 years ago
So, Total = Peⁱᵗ

In the context of your question,

y(t) = Ceᵏᵗ

1 000 000 = Ce⁰·⁰⁵⁽⁶²⁾

Your total amount y(t) = $ 1 000 000
Principal amount (the one-time deposit) = C
k is the interest rate (5% = 0.05 , for each period compounded)
t = 62 (62 years)


C = 1 000 000 / e⁰·⁰⁵⁽⁶²⁾

C = 1 000 000 / e³·¹

C ≈ 45 049.2024

C = 45 049.20 (2d.p for nearest cent)
J
J
3 years ago
@Yong Kc :

Yes agree. I guess that's why Zwen said the setter is cunning.

They have to turn it into a DE or be able to interpret that y(t) = Ceᵏᵗ in the correct way.

The 6 marks is actually easy to get if they simply substitute the values accordingly.
Zwen
Zwen
3 years ago
Thank you all for the explanation and workings. Appreciate it. By the way, the answer key is $45,049.20.
J
J
3 years ago
Welcome. For further reading :


https://betterexplained.com/articles/definitions-of-e-colorized/

https://www.mathsisfun.com/money/compound-interest-periodic.html
Zwen
Zwen
3 years ago
Alright thanks

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PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
Hello, I have one question, if you are not suppose to use your first equation, how do you know 1.05 = e^k?
Wong Wei Jie
Wong Wei Jie
3 years ago
I am only comparing the compound interest equation with the equation given in the question, which is required to get the value of the constant k. I did not use the compound interest equation to calculate the principal value.
PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
I see. Anyway, the answer key does not give your answer. Anyway question a bit funny. Thanks for responding
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Wong Wei Jie
Wong Wei Jie
3 years ago
Anyways, if you use the principal amount of $45049.20 which you have calculated and input it into the compound interest equation to double check your answer,

45049.20(1 + 0.05)^62
= 927734.32525...
which is not equals to 1000000

Thus, may I ask if your answer here is incorrect? It cant be that the compound interest equation is wrong as it is universally used
PhysChemTutor
PhysChemTutor
3 years ago
In the first place. The expontial method should not be used. It is componding continuously wrt dt. This is not practical at all. Anyway to answer the question we have to follow instructio. But should not change the meaning of k
Wong Wei Jie
Wong Wei Jie
3 years ago
Agreed though. I am also not sure why the question forces us to use an exponential equation w.r.t time for a compound interest computation.